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CZ quote: The SkillLockModifier wasn't supposed to affect damage values, but healing (First Aid and Treatment) and the use of gadgets (Grafts, etc). The way it currently works skews the damage balance completely, with specials recycling faster than intended.
Bye bye Coop/Spas earlier than 200 something? Too bad for the ppl that used time getting themselves Crepscule? Or did i read it wrong somewhere...
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Romaas about lvl 49 soldier BS twinks using CDR's
Originally Posted by Romaas
yepp, seems that they're investigating in removing the affect on weapon specials from skill lock. Got a triple set of skill lock imped and got somewhat shorter specials atm, but if they remove the affect on specials, I still got the skill lock mod on FA stims wich can save yer life
A tiny nerf for all us special addicts, but I don't think it'll affect one too much... or?
Well my specials with my 5% skill lock is a matter of 4 sec longer FA recharge on a 214 coop... just testet it today... that's quite a bit... imo... And that's only 1 imp...
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Romaas about lvl 49 soldier BS twinks using CDR's
That sure is quite a bit... I didn't test my Coop without my skill lock imps, but if -5 affects that much then it may be a lil bigger nerf than I expected...
Well, that would certainly explain why we dont have skillocks in our symbiants.
One more thing to remove from our wish-list, yeay for FC =D
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Shouldnt matter that much. Yes it will reduce our damage output a bit but I wouldnt be overly concerned.
After a day of AOparser in several teams I kinda consider soldier damage to be too good.. seeing as the only prof that ODd me was a shade going all out damage.
We are at our best 50% above a doc with MBC using DoTs. After the "nerf" we will still be be 50% above it still with spastic and for a MBCusing soldier with critsetup there will probably be an increase in sol vs doc damage.
I'd say those that will suffer most from this is proffessions that has used the skill lock in their symbiants to max out their damageoutput(Everyone using JAMEs and MBCs where skill lock has had a greater impact on recharge than fling/burst skill).
this is a joke....
I did crepuscle armor I got a HoH I got the -6 l-hand, I even have a leg with -5
at 211 I got my SPB burst to 5sec, FA to 14sec 1/1 at full defense with 8% crit scope with this setup I OD allmost everyone except shades and go toes to toes with very high level MA's
this is a very damage increase and dont say that nerfing the skill lock wont affect, I chose the damage way I know my HP/AC/evades are nerfed to hell by using all this skill lock gear but I chose the way of the damage and now if they remove the skill lock from us soldier in my point of view will nerf my damage by a good percentage
I chose the SPB way with heavy skill lock and I dont regreat it, and I dont want to be a cookie cutter using a spastic
please correct the "action not avaiable" bug, but dont nerf us that chose the skill lock way, and I know some friend soldiers that did it too
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P. Blaster is just as much cookie cutter as spastic, really.Originally posted by akgis
I chose the SPB way with heavy skill lock and I dont regreat it, and I dont want to be a cookie cutter using a spastic
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suxs big time if they do it.
We are ALL about our dmg...
doesn't really matter, if they do nerf the skill lock in regards to the special attacks, that doesn't just mean us, it means everyone. So, visually it will look different, whereas everyone else goes along for the ride and we are still damage dealers.Originally posted by Deathstalker
suxs big time if they do it.
We are ALL about our dmg...
No, its about tankingOriginally posted by Deathstalker
suxs big time if they do it.
We are ALL about our dmg...
Soldiers depend a lot more on specials if they use eg a Spastic.Originally posted by Gaijin
doesn't really matter, if they do nerf the skill lock in regards to the special attacks, that doesn't just mean us, it means everyone. So, visually it will look different, whereas everyone else goes along for the ride and we are still damage dealers.
So we're screwed more.
imho.
Soldiers, by definition, are dmg dealers, not tanks.Originally posted by Zerosignal
No, its about tanking
And if ur OD'd left and right, ur taunts dont fully work and u cant get aggro of the doc fast enough...
I wouldnt even think of the tank thing.
Thats from my own experience playing a Doc/Sol on Raids, Team mish, Hecks and various fun stuff xping.
I only play for 5 month now...
But i fail to see what Sols add beside dmg.
Dont misunderstood me, i love my Sol.
And soloing a 200 Slayer at 130 was just plain funny, or Mantis Queen at 150 and stuff like that.
Still, its all about the dmg imho.
"The SkillLockModifier wasn't supposed to affect damage values, but healing"
That quote annoys me alot. I honestly don't think they added skill lock items into the game to give people that maxed out on it a few seconds faster first aid. I don't think items like the trader star has skill lock in it so traders can have a few seconds faster graft.
What I dont understand is why FC can't admit they screwed up and could not see the effects of skill lock in the long run.
Give us the code for full auto please and tell us how it's "supposed" to work.
So true.Originally posted by Madde
"The SkillLockModifier wasn't supposed to affect damage values, but healing"
That quote annoys me alot. I honestly don't think they added skill lock items into the game to give people that maxed out on it a few seconds faster first aid. I don't think items like the trader star has skill lock in it so traders can have a few seconds faster graft.
What I dont understand is why FC can't admit they screwed up and could not see the effects of skill lock in the long run.
Give us the code for full auto please and tell us how it's "supposed" to work.
I fully support that request.Originally posted by Madde
Give us the code for full auto please and tell us how it's "supposed" to work.
totally agree.Originally posted by Madde
"The SkillLockModifier wasn't supposed to affect damage values, but healing"
That quote annoys me alot. I honestly don't think they added skill lock items into the game to give people that maxed out on it a few seconds faster first aid. I don't think items like the trader star has skill lock in it so traders can have a few seconds faster graft.
What I dont understand is why FC can't admit they screwed up and could not see the effects of skill lock in the long run.
Give us the code for full auto please and tell us how it's "supposed" to work.
they try to repair somethin they were unable to foresee.skilllock clusters have been in the game for a long time.
as usual, the players are screwed.
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Your taunts do work, I can hold aggro on targets without even attacking the target while a doctor is healing me thats how effective our taunts can be.Originally posted by Deathstalker
Soldiers, by definition, are dmg dealers, not tanks.
And if ur OD'd left and right, ur taunts dont fully work and u cant get aggro of the doc fast enough...
I wouldnt even think of the tank thing.
Thats from my own experience playing a Doc/Sol on Raids, Team mish, Hecks and various fun stuff xping.
I only play for 5 month now...
But i fail to see what Sols add beside dmg.
Dont misunderstood me, i love my Sol.
And soloing a 200 Slayer at 130 was just plain funny, or Mantis Queen at 150 and stuff like that.
Still, its all about the dmg imho.
just a little FYI damage in AO is ment to be
NT's, MA's and Shade's
Soldiers are designed to be damage support and a primary tank
Once you have tried unmistakable victim + spastic damage and seen it hold aggro off a chainmongoing enforcer you will know that our taunts work
For any single mob except the beast I can tank it better than any enforcer I know when considering the minimum ammount of healing needed. Yes we lack their safety margin but I've seen many times during bad pulls where I simply throw up AMS then taunt each add once and aggro sticks like glue untill the primary target drops.
Even the lowly Distinct victim will be able to let you hold 2 adds againts healaggro assuming you can hold the main target with damage.
Yes spastic will loose some damage but generally I think this is rather good, I've been ODing SMG fixers by 50-70% lately and personally I think that is wrong balancewise.
The only professions that has matched me damagewise has been shades and MAs. And with our robust setup and high survivability we kinda have had it all for a while.
so are you saying..... it's time for us to stop doing 10 second bursts and FA's on the spastics?Originally posted by Inarion
Once you have tried unmistakable victim + spastic damage and seen it hold aggro off a chainmongoing enforcer you will know that our taunts work
For any single mob except the beast I can tank it better than any enforcer I know when considering the minimum ammount of healing needed. Yes we lack their safety margin but I've seen many times during bad pulls where I simply throw up AMS then taunt each add once and aggro sticks like glue untill the primary target drops.
Even the lowly Distinct victim will be able to let you hold 2 adds againts healaggro assuming you can hold the main target with damage.
Yes spastic will loose some damage but generally I think this is rather good, I've been ODing SMG fixers by 50-70% lately and personally I think that is wrong balancewise.
The only professions that has matched me damagewise has been shades and MAs. And with our robust setup and high survivability we kinda have had it all for a while.
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