No more lowbie towers

[Mastablasta]

Remove lowbie towers. Make all towerfields lvl 175 minimum. This will make another incentive for lvling and a lot of problems for new players go away. No more groups of new players being wiped out by a single guy when trying to take a towerfield. Much less exponation of the balance issues that run rampant at lower than TL7 pvp.

Overall a much better implementation than currently. Also, the number of towersites should be reduced to accomodate the lower number of players currently in the game, making the highend towersites that much more attractive.

[Dutyfree]

Bump, there are way too many TL2 towers. There should be more TL4/5/6/7 towers in their place.

[Ciex]

I see no reason behind playing as a low level in AO. We should roll lvl 200 characters and im serious here.

[Gridpain]

Remove lowbie towers.

Remove Mastablasta please.

Just because some players like something you dont, you would like this removed ?

No more groups of new players being wiped out by a single guy when trying to take a towerfield

No one is forced to own a field, no one is forced to attack one.
You dont want to pvp at a certain level, dont plant a field in this range ...

[Lusos101]

No one is forced to play a game at a huge disadvantage that takes all the fun of playing. But of course people do. Thats why the servers are constantly overloaded with players and everywhere you go you see huge PvP battles.


Really...

[Neuromotor]

Remove Mastablasta please.

Might be a bit drastic, but if i had to choose that is the only suggestion in this thread i could even remotely support

[Gatester]

When OSB's go a single toon will not dominate tower fields at low levels.

[ragerayden]

Remove twinking & AO dies tomorrow.

I'm all for more towerfields for higher TLs but your suggestion, sir, is stupid or counterproductive at best.

[-LL-]

When OSB's go a single toon will not dominate tower fields at low levels.

some still will, but we'll start to see real fights.

[ithacana]

When OSB's go a single toon will not dominate tower fields at low levels.

This.

And in response to OP: No.

And in response to whoever brings up changing pvp level ranges: No

(Whoops guess that was me).

[mocs]

Well there's not much to expect from guys that think about twinkin as r click - item equipped,
they all blow the forum about this big achievement of having a 220 while abusing words like ''endgame'' or ''unique setup''.
100 mil creds for you Masta if you can put 90ish implants on a lvl 18 toon (med twink).
or 500 mil creds for ql 115 implants on same lvl toon (hard twink).
Prove yourself...professional..pfff

[haxi]

Did you trip over a lowbie tower and stub your toe or something?

[Panda-Marius]

blah blah blah blah

You're gonna eat those words.

On Topic: I can see the suggestion having a good basis to funnel people into levelling and solving the TL6-7 PvP "crisis", but removing low level tower fields is a bit extreme.

Finding an ulterior incentive to maintaining low level twinks should be looked into.

Ragerayden said: "Remove twinking & AO dies tomorrow."

I believe, sir, I do agree.

[Artyomis]

I'm strongly against removing lowbie towers, but I'm all after complete review of PvP situation around tl1-4 and tl5 aswell. If Funcom will manage to change NW mechanics with taking a serious look into lowbie PvP abilities of professions - lowbie towers might become really interesting to do.

[mocs]

...sir....

What words? Bla bla bla bla?

[Mastablasta]

Remove Mastablasta please.

Just because some players like something you dont, you would like this removed ?




No one is forced to own a field, no one is forced to attack one.
You dont want to pvp at a certain level, dont plant a field in this range ...

Noone is forced to play the game. This is exactly right and your own argument invalidates your argument.

[Mastablasta]

Well there's not much to expect from guys that think about twinkin as r click - item equipped,
they all blow the forum about this big achievement of having a 220 while abusing words like ''endgame'' or ''unique setup''.
100 mil creds for you Masta if you can put 90ish implants on a lvl 18 toon (med twink).
or 500 mil creds for ql 115 implants on same lvl toon (hard twink).
Prove yourself...professional..pfff

I'd like that 500 million then, I have a lvl 15 agent with ql 80-90 implants that I made in 2004, which was what you would call a "hard twink" at the time. Doing things like that now is a piece of cake, and frankly doing it at any level is just a matter of spending enough time on it, tediously laddering implants up to the next step. I've had numerous twinks across time, but then how could you know that? And why don't I bother with them today? Because they're not worth my time.

And then there's the rest of your noobness on display in your post about how a 220 is just a rightclick and you're done thing. I guess maybe a lot of it is now, but then that wasn't the case when I made my character and doing the things I did was something noone else had done and people went "wtf how did you do that". Of course, how would you know that? Oh that's right, you wouldn't, because you're some noob who thinks he's the king of the hill because he can sit and farm some credits to buy a couple items and farm some junk to equip that +1 to skill better than the guy who didn't bother doing any of it.

[Gridpain]

Noone is forced to play the game. This is exactly right and your own argument invalidates your argument.

erm ...

there's a difference between "not being forced to do something" and "being forced to not do something"

I ll explain a tad more, as it seems very complicated :

1st one : if an org is not pvp oriented and doesnt want to get killed while defending thier field in med suit and xp pistol => they can ignore tower fields... it's not as if "lowbie" tower field give that much advantages. (and actualy, with the current APT mechanisme, they have a chance to defend a field... and will have even more chances when OB nerfs hit live.)


2nd one is : if someone under TL7 wants to do some tower war ... well, they cant, because Mastablasta decided that the game should start at TL7, and there is not *any* fields in their range.


Clearer ?

[Mastablasta]

erm ...

there's a difference between "not being forced to do something" and "being forced to not do something"

I ll explain a tad more, as it seems very complicated :

1st one : if an org is not pvp oriented and doesnt want to get killed while defending thier field in med suit and xp pistol => they can ignore tower fields... it's not as if "lowbie" tower field give that much advantages. (and actualy, with the current APT mechanisme, they have a chance to defend a field... and will have even more chances when OB nerfs hit live.)


2nd one is : if someone under TL7 wants to do some tower war ... well, they cant, because Mastablasta decided that the game should start at TL7, and there is not *any* fields in their range.


Clearer ?

No, you only highlight the problems of AO further in your post and those are what should be eliminated. If you don't see the problems, then obviously you're not thinking hard enough.

[Dutyfree]

Sorry but Mastablasta just destroyed Gridpain's argument.

/threadwin