Friday with Means - October 9th, 2009 - Parry and Riposte - Back from the dead!

[SSK]

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Btw, I don't want to insult anyone with this post: I don't think devs play AO

I LOL'ed.

For all those "gief parry nao", I hope with rebalancing FC will take something back, because all toolset since god knows when was added w/o these feature having effect. Keepers and shades (should be best at it) never had it working, they were put in game a lot after parry removing. Argument about sync and melee range as reason for love doesn't work everywhere. Parry and riposte should hit game together with working fall damage and RK thunders actually killing people.

[Mereditche]

Could it be that it's PART of the whole balancing update!??!?!?!? Could it?!!=????!?!?!

I really don't have any confidence in the present team to deal with this balancing thing. Especially when they give advys and enfos parry and riposte I can only /facepalm.

We don't need new stuff, we need the old stuff working. The sooner the better.

[Windguaerd]

I don't know why you guys are bitchin like little girls... Colin has said very clearly:

I had hopes this week for us being able to share the plans for ALL perks and actions accross all professions this week. Unfortunately it isn't going to happen as we really feel we need to make the ENTIRE plan concerning research, perks, nanos and other changes available at the same time or the changes to perks will only be taken out of context...and a source of MORE questions and argument as opposed to LESS. There are still some details we are fighting about...if we can't agree yet it isn't ready.

So, instead of just saying "hmm, they are fixing Parry and Riposte.... damn those have been broken forever, about time".... there is whining, and how many posts making the ridiculous claim that the devs don't play AO?... lol!

We've been playing AO as-is for many years guys, hell I remember fall damage, memory leaks up the @ss left and right, more bugs than the entire rainforest... most of us vets just played through it, some left then came back later on when those were fixed.

AO ain't a little dinky MMO with 6-7 skills and 4-5 classes. Over 70 skills, 14 classes.... come on, you know this is going to take some time to work out. Specially since (as far as I am aware) no other Game Director has every actually attempted to balance all the professions.

Colin has done a better job than all his predecessors... all together (sorry Silirrion, but he has).

Let's get excited at the stuff he is generously showing us every week, it's over a year now since he took office, and FWM has brought a lot of info about what the dev team is working on. Let's be patient when he says something is not ready, because you know what?.... if the freaking Game Director says it's not ready... whatever mud and bullcrap you throw at it... won't make things go any faster.

Now... where is my Cult of Means T-Shirt?

[Windguaerd]

I really don't have any confidence in the present team to deal with this balancing thing. Especially when they give advys and enfos parry and riposte I can only /facepalm.

We don't need new stuff, we need the old stuff working. The sooner the better.

Reminder: /facepalm is in-game thanks to the same dev team you are whining about. Have fun.

Profs have been broken since 2001, I think a few more weeks/months wouldn't hurt as long as the job is done right.

[zartosht]

i really don't have any confidence in the present team to deal with this balancing thing. Especially when they give advys and enfos parry and riposte i can only /facepalm.

We don't need new stuff, we need the old stuff working. The sooner the better.

qft

[Mekh]

Both Parry and Riposte are broken and both are part of the game, not only do they have numerous buffs spanning multiple professions but they are requirements on a number of weapons. To be honest I applaud Kintaii for not giving up on them and getting them to a state where they could be fixed.

This...

[Klod9000]

Oh hai!!

/me passes around muffins to everyone.

You all looked like you could use some muffiny goodness.

Nowhere in anything I have read from Means suggests on any level that Parry/Riposte are the things that are going to be fixed and ef everything else that's broken. Nowhere in anything I have read from Means suggests on any level that they don't care about what else is wrong or that they are making no effort to fix or to do anything else. What I read was "look, we didn't get as far along on the things I thought we would so I can't tell you about those things, but this is what I can share from this week."

Now, lets all go back to eating our muffins and stop acting like our issues are the only ones that should matter.

I mean seriously, I was personally promised* Dancer Cages, yet you don't see me in here whining every 3 seconds that they didn't drop everything to get them in game yet. I mean its been more than a month since DragonCon!!


Mmmmm Muffin.

I hate muffins.

{removed by Anarrina}

Reminder: /facepalm is in-game thanks to the same dev team you are whining about. Have fun.

If balancing act will be done as poorly as that emote, well... :shudders:

[Aethyrguard]

I hate muffins.



tl;dr

This sums you up nicely. I bet you can say the same thing about your profession's (MP) description to huh? Would explain why you are so confused on what role and toolset updates they are in need of. You are the same Klod that wants a triple AS tigress and the removal of Pets on MP right?

[Klod9000]

This sums you up nicely.

In US of A, maybe.

I bet you can say the same thing about your profession's (MP) description to huh?

No. Why?

Would explain why you are so confused on what role and toolset updates they are in need of.

Roles and toolsets can change, as seen in the latest patches.

You are the same Klod that wants a triple AS tigress and the removal of Pets on MP right?

Yes.

Since they will be so busy repairing parry/riposte, best course of action in balancing MPs would be removal of pets and introduction of, at least, double AS crossbow.

[Mastablasta]

In US of A, maybe.



No. Why?



Roles and toolsets can change, as seen in the latest patches.



Yes.

Since they will be so busy repairing parry/riposte, best course of action in balancing MPs would be removal of pets and introduction of, at least, double AS crossbow.

Troll

[Klod9000]

Troll

/throws Masta a peanut

[omegahealer]

I am sorry but my quote of who? Which quote?

I posted the name in my last post, i got the feeling you're just trying to troll now.

here's the name once more - Tanana -

[TheMekon]

... "Had hoped to blah blah blah, but not ready yet, so rather than give you a half formed explanation that will get taken out of context and start flame wars.. We'll hold off for now"..

"oh, and here's a controversial bit of information that can be taken out of context and start a flame war.."




No offence, but sometimes, I swear that the left hand doesn't know what its doing, let alone what the right hand is doing (and no, I dont want to know what the right hand is doing either..)

[vallikat]

... "Had hoped to blah blah blah, but not ready yet, so rather than give you a half formed explanation that will get taken out of context and start flame wars.. We'll hold off for now"..

"oh, and here's a controversial bit of information that can be taken out of context and start a flame war.."




No offence, but sometimes, I swear that the left hand doesn't know what its doing, let alone what the right hand is doing (and no, I dont want to know what the right hand is doing either..)

Mekon, Mekon, Mekon...

You really need to eat the muffin. It will do you a world of good. I promise. Don't believe me? Scroll back some and see the power of the muffin for yourself. Oh I know, perhaps you are not partial to muffin, but you should give this one a try. It's super tasty and good for you too!!

[Manaas]

I really don't have any confidence in the present team to deal with this balancing thing. Especially when they give advys and enfos parry and riposte I can only /facepalm.

We don't need new stuff, we need the old stuff working. The sooner the better.

parry/riposte been ingame since launch

if that doesn't count as old stuff then I dunno what does.

[Klod9000]

parry/riposte been ingame since launch

if that doesn't count as old stuff then I dunno what does.

Pets have been also. I would rather if they reroute all parry/riposte resources into fixing pets.

[vallikat]

Pets have been also. I would rather if they reroute all parry/riposte resources into fixing pets.

I would rather that you stop trying to push your own agenda and eat the muffin. Sadly, we can't all get what we want.

[Klod9000]

I would rather that you stop trying to push your own agenda and eat the muffin. Sadly, we can't all get what we want.

Sadly, some are getting all they want.

[vallikat]

Sadly, some are getting all they want.

Yes! I'm getting Dancer Cages because daddy* loves me best! Yay!!

*Sticks toungue out at Klod*




*Fortunately DragonCon 2010 is far enough away that I'm sure that "daddy" comment won't come back to haunt me. *eyes Means nervously*

[Klod9000]

Yes! I'm getting Dancer Cages because daddy* loves me best! Yay!!

You are aware how awfully wrong this sounds?