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    Suggestions from GSP!

    Hi!

    Had this passed onto me to post on behalf of Jezebelle from GSP.

    Cheers!

    Here's another list of suggestions compiled from comments at some GSP
    parties. This time, the topic was what we want Santa Leet to bring us
    this year. I collected suggestions at different parties for over a
    week, so there were quite a lot of them.

    - the new graphics engine
    This is the number one most wanted Christmas Gift this year, as long as
    it works right. There's nothing quite so annoying as getting that one
    great present you've been hoping for, and it turns out that "some
    assembly required" was an understatement and it's going to take another
    month to find all the missing pieces they didn't warn you about
    beforehand. On the other hand, if you can get it all assembled and
    polished, with the batteries included, nobody will care whether there
    are a couple pretty trinkets in the stocking or not.

    - Stockings
    Speaking of stockings, there were requests for two kinds. Tights to
    wear and big socks to place on the walls of apartments. Or maybe
    they're even the same item? Either way, they'd have red and white
    stripes, like candy canes.

    - Permanent Christmas costumes
    Several players wanted Santa Suits that don't expire. Personally, I
    don't mind the timer on the suit. I do wish the hat stayed around
    longer, though. Maybe a good compromise would be to leave the Santa
    Suit alone and add some new permanent Christmas clothing items. There
    were plenty of specific items suggested:

    - Christmas Miniskirt
    The Santa Suit is too long to be sexy. It's good for keeping warm in
    the snow around the Christmas Tree in Borealis (not that it actually
    accumulates), but it's not so good for dancing in front of the fireplace
    in Reet Retreat all night, or even on the crowded Glass Dancefloor at a
    big party. For those who find the Santa Suit too bulky and the Naughty
    List thong too skimpy, a miniskirt is the middle ground.

    - Santa Corset
    Goes with the miniskirt - something in between a full-length coat and a
    bikini. There's a good example of both at
    http://www.scavengeinc.com/images/ro...et-costume.jpg

    - Christmas nightie
    A short nightie or teddy or camisole or something similarly slinky, in
    sheer red satin.

    - Red Leather Fur Lined Boots
    Same red color as the Santa Suit with white on top. The suggestion
    specified, "High-heeled for the ladies, steel toed for men and troxes,"
    but I guess that would just be descriptive text in this engine. Maybe
    the new engine will handle different boot meshes?

    - Santa's Elf costume
    Boyshorts, bikini top, Santa Hat with a bell instead of a white puff,
    boots and gloves, all in green with white trim, each with a small scale
    modifier to make the wearer elf-sized if they wear the whole costume.

    - Bagpipes
    Perhaps even similar to the theoretical ones listed by RecipeBot. Maybe
    not quite so difficult to assemble, but that's what makes that fake
    entry so funny. They're not exactly a handheld item, and not exactly a
    shoulder item or back item. Maybe the new engine can handle hanging
    something diagonally over one shoulder and under the other?

    - "fr00b loops"
    A cheap breakfast item, a parody of the "Froot Loops" sugary
    fruit-colored breakfast cereal, but I don't think there's any more story
    behind it than that.

    - "h00ties"
    A more expensive breakfast item. "woot" and "hoot" are common
    expressions of excitement. "W00ties" came about as a sillier variation
    and became associated with corn flakes because of the similarity to
    "Wheaties." Almost immediately replaced by "H00ties" because of the
    similarity to "hooters".

    - "Cabbage Pants Kids"
    A silly idea, probably too silly, but I thought it was funny. Atrox
    dolls, a parody of the old Cabbage Patch Kids dolls. Maybe pull the
    string on the back (right-click) to make them dance and/or say something
    silly? Maybe phrases like the leets and reets say, but with more
    references to Mongo.

    - colored lightbars - detachable for raving
    Perhaps this would work better in the new engine, but I've seen examples
    recently of good colored lighting even in the current engine. The
    problem is the scarcity of portable light sources of different colors.
    Colored lightbars that could be worn on the back like the Newbie Island
    lightbars for exploring, then removed and held in either hand for
    dancing, would be terrific. Especially if right-clicking them cycled
    their colors.

    - cowbell
    Handheld or worn around the neck, preferably with sound effects or
    floating text quoting the famous Saturday Night Live skit featuring Blue
    Oyster Cult and Christopher Walken. "I gotta have more cowbell!"
    "Guess what? I've got a fever. And the only prescription... is more
    cowbell!"

    - purse
    It's a fashion accessory, it's a container, and it's a one-handed blunt
    weapon! How does she fit a dozen suits of armor, three yalms, a support
    beam, two rocket launchers, and a whole notum field tower in there? The
    nanobots did it. Does getting smacked upside the head with a purse full
    of heavy powered assault armor boots feel like a wrecking ball? Not
    quite; the genuine malle leather cushions the impact.

    - rock candy
    Similar to the candy the ARKs were handing out last Halloween that
    turned players into mini-Hecklers for a little while, but this one turns
    the user into a brightly colored, translucent Heckler of Crystalline
    Sucrose. A random color each time. Purple, red, pink, light blue, lime
    green, lemon yellow, any of the usual candy colors commonly associated
    with fruit flavors.

    - magic wands
    Similar to the Adapted Notum Crystals, but ranged instead of melee, with
    different shapes and more sparkles. Great for witch/mage costumes,
    useful for casting or pet professions. Even better if they have trails
    of sparkles when using social emotes with them. Should definitely be
    selectable (choice of mission, perhaps?) or tradable, though. Otherwise
    it would be much too hard to randomly get the one that's right for your
    profession or costume preference.

    - bring back some old Christmas items
    - Mistletoe was a common suggestion, both from the players who remember
    it and want it for their new characters and the newer players who
    weren't aware that there ever was mistletoe in previous years.
    - The Holiday Holograms are missed, too. There aren't very many of
    those around any more. Newer players get all confused about this effect
    they've never seen before and are disappointed that they can't get one.
    - The dancing Clauses were great, too. There are still a few of those
    around and it's always fun to see them come out, but they don't last
    long enough and aren't reusable soon enough.

    - summonable Santa Leet pet
    Like the Spooky Leet Pet nano, Christmas edition. Variations could include:
    - Santa Leet
    - Reinleet (a leet with reindeer antlers)
    - Elf Leet (green hat with a bell instead of red with a white puff,
    maybe pointy ears, or pointy shoes?)
    - Mrs. Claws (Cheerleet with a Santa hat and Naughty List Bikini?)
    - "Frosty the Snowleet" (a leet made of snowballs)
    - "Cooleet" (Frosty with sunglasses).
    - Gingerleet (like the one who gave out the cookies last year)

    - eggnog
    Yeah, there was some inebriation in progress at that party. The great
    thing about eggnog is mixing it. It's great in coffee, it's great with
    various liquors, and it's great straight up with some nutmeg. Maybe
    Menthol Coffee with Eggnog has a different effect? Maybe Enhanced
    Coffee with Eggnog tastes less like tobacco and leather? Maybe pouring
    a splash of Sugarfree Rum into a cup of Eggnog makes a consumable drink
    that applies the rum's buff for an hour or so? And what happens when
    you mix the rum and eggnog in the coffee? Is it just delicious, or does
    it also make you smarter, faster, prettier, and stronger? Or does it
    just make you think you are?

    - wind-up leet toys
    Functionally similar to the Dancing Santa and Dancing Mrs. Claus dolls,
    but they're miniature leets that run around in circles, say something
    leet, roll back and forth, and generally act cute. Preferably for a
    little longer than the current dancing dolls, or at least reusable faster.

    - reindeer antlers
    A social headwear item, much like the Funny Arrow, but antlers. +42 to
    Visible Silliness. No other effect.

    - wreath
    A circle of fir branches with holly, for decorating apartments.
    Sometimes entwined with sparkling lights or glittering tinsel.

    - Yule log
    A decorated thick piece of tree that burns for a very long time, usually
    accompanied by music, although I suspect musical burning logs would melt
    the current engine. Placeable as furniture, like the campfires but one
    big log, would be good. It was also suggested that it should be
    wieldable as a one-handed blunt weapon with fire damage. As a social
    item, that would just be 1 point of fire damage, though, not even enough
    to melt the snowmen. I'm sure lots of people would get a kick out of
    dancing around with a burning log in each hand. (See "ignitable
    torches" Halloween suggestion.)

    - Christmas tree as an Atrox 2hb weapon
    Another furniture/weapon hybrid - the pine trees and Christmas trees
    that Santa Leet brings every year, placeable and wieldable (probably
    Atrox only - the scale would just look wrong when a tiny little Opichix
    picks up a tree).

    - Christmas dinner
    Once we got onto the topic of food, a whole bunch of Christmas dinner
    ideas came rapid-fire. I think it must have been around dinner time.
    - whole roast turkey, placeable (big enough to look good on the dining
    room table in the Sunrise Station apartments)
    - big, juicy turkey legs, wieldable
    - mince pies
    - cheesecake (would it be possible to "use" the cheesecake to cut
    slices from it?)
    - mulled cider

    - sleighbells
    http://media.photobucket.com/image/s...hbells.gif?o=5
    There were a couple different ideas for this. Maybe the same item could
    serve more than one function. Right-click to switch it, perhaps? It
    could be a one-handed blunt weapon to swing around while dancing,
    jingling all the way. It could be worn as a belt or a bandolier (or
    maybe as a top?) It could be placed on a wall as a decoration.

    - vehicles
    Lots of vehicle suggestions came up, mostly based on Santa's Sleigh, and
    they all came down to three basic ideas:
    - sleigh jetbike
    - reindeer jetbike (shaped like a reindeer or just a brown and white
    bike with antlers)
    - reindeer and sleigh yalm (possibly animate the reindeer legs when the
    sleigh moves forward?)

    - Yutto rickshaw
    As I was proofreading this, Nushen mentioned on stream that she wanted a
    shuttle with a Yutto chauffeur, which brought up the idea of a Yutto
    rickshaw, basically a hoverchair with a canopy on top and a Yutto in
    front, pulling it along. Doesn't so much count as a vehicle, as I don't
    expect it would be very fast. -1,000 runspeed was suggested, but that
    might be a bit extreme.

    - apartment fireplace
    A hearth or fireplace to hang the stockings over, something like a
    smaller version of the ones in Reet Retreat maybe. Preferably "usable"
    to light/extinguish. The current engine seems to have difficulty
    keeping those properly illuminating the room, but having the fireplace
    and making its light work properly don't have to happen at the same time.

    - snow carpet
    Similar to the nice red carpet, but the color of the bottom of the
    Gingerbread Yutto Tent. Preferably bigger than those, so the floor of
    an apartment can be covered with snow and still have a couple other
    items in it, like a snowman or two and a gingerbread house.

    - goggles
    This list was started shortly after Dragon Con, where chrome
    steampunk-style goggles were apparently very popular. There's at least
    one hat with goggles already, and several kinds of sunglasses, but I
    don't think we have separate goggles. None of the sunglasses have arms,
    just lenses perched on the bridge of the nose. Are the arms an engine
    issue? Those would be rather necessary for goggles. If that would be a
    problem in the current engine, please make sure it's on the checklist of
    things the new engine should be able to do.

    - gingerbread recipes
    The gingerbread recipes last year were an interesting idea, but they
    were still NODROP and only made the same cookies that were available for
    free in other ways, and still only available for a limited time, so
    there was no point in going to the trouble of making them. Giving out
    gingerbread cookies for free as part of the event is good, but once we
    have the recipe and (reusable!) cookie cutter from the event, it would
    be much more fun to be able to make more later and give them away.

    - mini shoulder snowman
    Like the shoulder devil and angel, but a snowman.

    - star light
    A five-pointed star hovering over the shoulder. A light source like the
    Floating Torch, but shaped like the stars some people put on top of
    their Christmas trees.

    - change passing cargo ships into sleighs
    Not a new item, and I haven't seen something like this done before, but
    there are patches before and after the events anyway, so I imagine it
    would be possible. Whether it's too much hassle or too silly is
    something you'll have to determine.

    - the aliens that stole Christmas
    There could be low-level alien raids in various cities, with the aliens
    dropping Christmas Gifts. Basically, the aliens try to steal the
    Christmas Gifts sitting around the tree and kidnap or kill the Santa
    Leets and players try to stop them. It would give us a way to gather
    Christmas Gifts other than nuke-farming Santa Leets, which really never
    seemed much in the Christmas spirit to me. I guess the trick would be
    giving the lowbies a chance to get something without getting
    splattered. Maybe the aliens go after the Santa Leets out in the
    fields, and we can attack either one to get the gifts. Maybe the wild
    Santa Leets give a mission to defend them from the aliens?
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    Oh but there's more!

    > - Angel dress
    > Something to go with the halo and wings. The toga works, but only if
    > you have AI. Maybe something similar, but with gold trim? Maybe make
    > it shiny, or even glowing, in the new engine? Maybe the new engine
    > could even handle wide, flowing sleeves?
    >
    > - Christmas placard
    > Like the Anniversary version of the Birthday Placard, changable to
    > different images. "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays" or "Happy
    > Hannukah" or Yule, or Kwanzaa, or whatever other winter holidays you can
    > name. Maybe pictures of a Christmas Gift, a Santa Leet, a Christmas
    > Tree, etc.
    >
    > - angel statue
    > I think they meant something like
    > http://media.photobucket.com/image/a...gel5.jpg?o=117
    > - a Gothic style angel with mostly closed wings, so she can be a good
    > height without taking up the whole width of the room.
    >
    > - snowballs
    > Two different ideas came up for bringing back snowballs. A non-hostile
    > version of the snowball nano from several years ago, so we can throw
    > them at each other without having to start an actual PvP fight, and a
    > round white grenade weapon we can equip in social. Maybe they're
    > related, even? Use the snowball weapon to learn the nano that lets you
    > throw a snowball effect? Or just use the item to invoke the nano
    > without learning it? Most of the players who suggested these (and they
    > came up several times) weren't even aware that there ever was a snowball
    > nano.
    >
    > - glowing animated tattoos
    > Yeah, I'm pretty sure the current engine wouldn't support this, but I
    > don't know for sure, and there's always the new engine to think about.
    > Anyway, in case you haven't seen the news, someone on RK4 invented a
    > blood-powered implanted touchscreen that magnetically polarizes black
    > tattoo pixels - a bluetooth cell phone screen implant.
    > http://www.physorg.com/news122819670.html We can't let RK4 have
    > animated tattoos before RK0, can we? Just have to make ours more
    > colorful to stay ahead.
    >
    > - glittering, flashing bikini
    > Again, maybe this would work in the new engine? Reflective sequins,
    > glowing lights, specular materials, whatever works and looks good.
    >
    > - sword-chucks
    > A pair of swords chained together like nunchaku. Most of the
    > copyright-infringing suggestions I skipped, but this one I thought was
    > funny enough, and it's from a gaming webcomic, so getting permission to
    > use it is plausible. It's from 8-Bit Theater,
    > http://www.nuklearpower.com/8-bit-theater/ Obviously, they'd have to be
    > plastic toys or Nerf swords, since they'd do as much damage to the user
    > as the target.
    >
    > - edible bikini
    > Like the copyrights, I left a bunch of suggestions off the list because
    > they were too far outside the game's "Teen" rating. This one, though,
    > is right on the border. It wouldn't have to be any more revealing than
    > the other holiday bikinis. I suppose it would look even less naked than
    > Shade tattoos and sounds slightly less naughty than pulsating biotech
    > rods and variable friction jelly. Might make a better Valentine's Day
    > item than Christmas, but I suppose there could be different
    > colors/flavors for different holidays.
    >
    > - hats
    > Several new hat ideas came up, mostly ones that might actually work in
    > this engine!
    > - dunce cap / wizard hat - conical hats, two different skins
    > - "pimp hat" / "cat in the hat" stovepipe hat - a tall cylindrical hat,
    > striped and bent
    > - chef's hat - a big white puff with a good excuse for hiding your hair
    >
    > - Santa Beard
    > This would be a new location, but if the anchor's a bit off and it looks
    > like it's not attached right, that's fine. Fake beards usually look a
    > little off. I suppose it would go in the neck slot.
    >
    > - Cheerleet Mrs. Claus doll
    > Similar to the Santa Leet doll, but it's Cheerleet with a Santa hat.
    > And maybe a red version of her usual outfit, the same color as the Santa
    > Suit.
    >
    > - multi-cultural Leet NPCs
    > I don't know if focussing on Christmas was a design decision or just the
    > effort efficient way of covering the largest portion of the player
    > base. Of course, once you start including Hanukkah and Kwanzaa and
    > other assorted winter holidays, it's hard to not leave someone out.
    > Random no-drop loot mixed in with the Christmas loot would just be
    > infuriating to collect the right ones, but leet NPCs of various cultures
    > could hand out specific items or quests. It seems to me that this would
    > be more work than most of the other ideas on this list, except that
    > first big one. Might be worth keeping in mind, though.
    >
    > - Knecht Ruprecht
    > This is one example suggestion that came up that might work with the
    > whole "multi-cultural leets" idea. Apparently, in Germany "Knecht
    > Ruprecht" beats you with a stick if you're bad. I think the suggestion
    > was for the stick as a 1-handed blunt social weapon, but I'm not
    > familiar enough with this to fill in the details. I take that as
    > further evidence that Americans could do with some more exposure to
    > other cultures.
    >
    > - boxers for girls, thongs for boys (and troxes)
    > I know I've sent this suggestion in before, but it keeps coming up often
    > enough that I thought it deserved mentioning again. The "not female"
    > Christmas and Halloween boxers and the "female only" Christmas and
    > Halloween bikinis should all be available again, without the gender
    > restrictions. It's mostly the girls wishing they could wear the boxers,
    > but men and 'troxes wearing thongs are not uncommon at GSP parties.
    > That other suggestion about wearing the bikini tops on their heads might
    > have to wait for an engine that handles hats better.
    >
    > - Santa's Sack
    > The giant white or red bag Santa lugs around the presents in. It's a
    > backpack that when placed on the back, appears as a huge sack over one
    > shoulder, like Santa is often shown carrying it. It was also suggested
    > that it should be wieldable in the right hand as a 2-handed blunt social
    > weapon, but I don't know if this engine could manage that without
    > looking ridiculously wrong. It would be nice if it came with a gift or
    > two in it or some cookies or something.
    >
    > - pet costumes
    > Items or nanos you can use on normal pets to change their appearance. A
    > few suggestions:
    > - bowties for Slayerdroids
    > - morph MP demons into showmen and "meatballs" into snowballs (changing
    > their attacks to cold damage?)
    > - Santa Suits for bureaucrat droids
    > - drape some tinsel and/or christmas lights on the Engineer cargo droids
    >
    > - Christmas lanterns
    > Similar to the Hanging Pumpkin Lanterns, but more Christmassy. Garlands
    > and tinsel and sparkling lights, maybe some candy canes hanging off it.
    >
    > - pierced breastfeeding lobster
    > DJ Lauri misread three consecutive lines from concurrent unrelated
    > conversations and asked, on stream, why we were talking about "pierced
    > breastfeeding lobsters". I said we weren't, but I'd include it if
    > someone could explain how it was a Christmas item. Bellidancer came
    > right back with the idea of a hollow red plastic eggnog-filled lobster
    > with breasts. Pull the piercing on one nipple to drink from the other.
    >
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  4. #4
    wow! <3

    Please make it so.

    And add snow falling in Bore(and elsewhere) with snowdrifts piling up.
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  5. #5
    ya i want that thing
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  6. #6
    A lot of funny or otherwise interesting ideas there and while it would probably be too much for one single Christmas season, they could be used over the next few years (assuming there will be such thing as the "next few years" for AO ).

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  7. #7
    There are some really cool ideas in there. Definitely hope to see some of these added in. (The Santa leet is my favorite idea.)

  8. #8
    That reminds me of the joke about the genie that was asked to make a highway from Texas to Hawaii.

    I will take the one at the top of the list in a heart beat.
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