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  1. #141
    Well, I'm understandably biased about that, being a calm prof myself

    I would like to see pets zoning with you into the decom room after being mezzed/calmed/rooted and that hostile effects are wipen from their NCU. Exiting decom room and finding your pets calmed outside, having to recast them sucks hard as you'll spend too much time recasting/rebuffing them.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by crattey View Post
    Well, I'm understandably biased about that, being a calm prof myself

    I would like to see pets zoning with you into the decom room after being mezzed/calmed/rooted and that hostile effects are wipen from their NCU. Exiting decom room and finding your pets calmed outside, having to recast them sucks hard as you'll spend too much time recasting/rebuffing them.
    Hehe, really, so you spend too much time having to recast pets? Well, glad you saw what this thread is about.

    Recasting pets sucks, it is a waste of time. If you can self-cast it, you don't have any advantage of longer pet time, except that you have more time to actually play this game, and not just wait. The pet won't survive longer, won't hit harder, even if its time has run out in a fight, it doesn't despawn anyway. It is not an OSB, having 8h GSF/Behe/Reflects so that everyone can take them for granted any time would for sure be a factor to game balance, but having a 2h pet won't, other pet users have that for years.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Camar View Post
    Hehe, really, so you spend too much time having to recast pets? Well, glad you saw what this thread is about.

    Recasting pets sucks, it is a waste of time. If you can self-cast it, you don't have any advantage of longer pet time, except that you have more time to actually play this game, and not just wait. The pet won't survive longer, won't hit harder, even if its time has run out in a fight, it doesn't despawn anyway. It is not an OSB, having 8h GSF/Behe/Reflects so that everyone can take them for granted any time would for sure be a factor to game balance, but having a 2h pet won't, other pet users have that for years.
    I will say it again, cuz you guys just ignore it

    The nanocloud briefly takes on a semi-physical manifestation of the caster's anger

    30 minutes is not a brief time, its too long as it is.
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    I will say it again, cuz you guys just ignore it

    The nanocloud briefly takes on a semi-physical manifestation of the caster's anger

    30 minutes is not a brief time, its too long as it is.
    Dude, this is a copy and paste from the first MP pet. All descriptions of all MP pets are the same. This is the description for the pets that don't have individual names, but names like Embodiment, Personification, etc. This description makes sense for those.
    It changes for demons, nothing about "briefly" there, yet they have the same duration as the pets before, and like the SL-demons. Just a simple mistake of the coders, copied the wrong phrase.

    Quit grasping at ridiculous straws, you are making a fool of yourself. Anyone who actually reads the non-troll arguments can see that.

    And BTW: Description on Healpets is copy-paste too, but the duration is changed for Morti.
    Last edited by Camar; May 24th, 2007 at 13:12:47.

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    I will say it again, cuz you guys just ignore it

    The nanocloud briefly takes on a semi-physical manifestation of the caster's anger

    30 minutes is not a brief time, its too long as it is.
    Well, "brief" is a relative term. It can represent only a few seconds in duration, but it can extend over a few days or even more as well.

    Keep it up, please.
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  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Klod View Post
    Keep it up, please.
    Glad that someone agrees with me here and not just use stupid flames and answers like "No u dont kn3w anything, u n00b".
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    Glad that someone agrees with me here and not just use stupid flames and answers like "No u dont kn3w anything, u n00b".
    Sarcasm detector failed I guess.

    Anyway, where did I call you stupid or a noob? I never insulted you or anyone else in this thread and in general in this forums. If you do feel I insulted you, my apologies, although I don't know where you get that from.

    I have no problem discussing, I have no problem admitting mistakes. But what I do have a problem with people who don't read the arguments given, or just ignore them and post things that have nothing to do with the problem at hand. An obviously mistaken nano-description as an argument against prolonging the nano's duration just has no merit, I stated that, that's it. It is not in any way an argument against the things that were said before.

    All other arguments you have stated have been countered. It is in no way exploitable (even the second thing that came up in the discussion, reduced cast-times isn't). It won't give the MPs any more combat capabilities. It won't give MPs pets they cannot self-cast for a longer time, all is level-locked and easy to cast anyway.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    I will say it again, cuz you guys just ignore it

    The nanocloud briefly takes on a semi-physical manifestation of the caster's anger

    30 minutes is not a brief time, its too long as it is.
    I will say it again

    The dev that changes the pet duration can remove the word briefly from the description.

    (bump for 2h pets)
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  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonalethian View Post
    I will say it again

    The dev that changes the pet duration can remove the word briefly from the description.

    (bump for 2h pets)
    A very reasonable and logical solution.

    bump

  10. #150
    Since there have been several people opposed to this, then I am no longer buffing anyone who is level 200-220.

    If you are a 220 fixer, and you want the CM to cast your shadowweb, then screw you, you're not getting it from me.

    If you are a 220 keeper, you are not getting CM to cast your top auras.

    If you are a 220 advy.. then you don't need my CM because you can probably cast a 220 buff at level 100!

    Give us longer pets since other professions are desperate for our buffs.. no longer duration, no buffs from this MP.
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  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by GoDofUSA View Post
    Since there have been several people opposed to this, then I am no longer buffing anyone who is level 200-220.

    If you are a 220 fixer, and you want the CM to cast your shadowweb, then screw you, you're not getting it from me.

    If you are a 220 keeper, you are not getting CM to cast your top auras.

    If you are a 220 advy.. then you don't need my CM because you can probably cast a 220 buff at level 100!

    Give us longer pets since other professions are desperate for our buffs.. no longer duration, no buffs from this MP.
    lol, the AO comunity is already used to your blackmailing tactics...every time you guys need some new toy to make your profession more uber than others you bring out the "no buffs for j00" stuff, like a little kid saying he hates his parents till they buy the stuff he wants.

    Grow up ffs.
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  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    lol, the AO comunity is already used to your blackmailing tactics...every time you guys need some new toy to make your profession more uber than others you bring out the "no buffs for j00" stuff, like a little kid saying he hates his parents till they buy the stuff he wants.

    Grow up ffs.
    Um...... Hold on, let my brain start working again...

    ...

    Ok, there it goes.

    HOW is extending the duration of an MP's demon making MP "more uber than others"? I would like to know. Compare the MP to both other pet profs:

    Engi: Pets don't have a timer

    Crat: Last time I checked, their droid (poor CG ) lasted roughly 2 hours. Carlo lasts 30 minutes. Hell, bump for Carlo lasting longer (some will argue he's a replacement for the charm line but hey, the crat is "paying" carlo! Listen to what he says in Other's Pets. Quite funny).

    MP: Demon: 30 minutes, Mezz pet: 34ish minutes, Heal pet: 2 hours


    So..... If our heal pet lasts 2 hours, how does making our demon last 2 hours make MP any more uber then the rest? I'm still grasping for a reason. Our heal pet is 2 hours long... How does that make us extra uber? Oh yeah! We only have to cast it once every 2 hours. I'm still failing to see the uberness...

    I will eagerly await your defense.
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  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Norbal View Post
    ...blabla...BIG LETTERS....shiny colors...
    You already have 3 pets it is necesery to have some drawback on that power.

    The pets duration fits perfectly into the MP storyline too, you summon him by focusing your anger and turning it into a form, i dont see why 30 min is so short to you...some self nanos in game last even shorter and ppl do not complain about them...

    Combined with 100% capping AS and your new dot you already kill ppl without the need of your pet, when we add MPs 2.4kish evades in play i dont rly see why you guys even need a dmg pet.

    If casting 1 nano every 30 minutes is so hard for you, just dont do it i guess, noone forces you to have a pet.
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  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    Please come back to "Take the bullet thread".
    I see you kinda miss MPs in "your" thread.
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  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Klod View Post
    I see you kinda miss MPs in "your" thread.
    Please stay on toppic, i dont really see what this thread has to do with some crats thread...
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  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by greedy View Post
    The pets duration fits perfectly into the MP storyline too, you summon him by focusing your anger and turning it into a form, i dont see why 30 min is so short to you...some self nanos in game last even shorter and ppl do not complain about them...
    "Summons a powerful creature of energy which will attack the enemies of the caster."

    That is the correct description for any pet with a demon form. All other is just a copy-paste mistake. I don't know why you are still using this "argument".

    The description you keep quoting ad nauseum is the description for meat-balls, which all "coincidentally" have names like Personification or even Manifestation. The SL demons have individual names, nothing about manifesting anger, nothing about brief.

    Just grow up, admit you are grasping at straws out of pure envy, your last post is nothing but "waaah MPs are more uber than me".

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Camar View Post
    "Summons a powerful creature of energy which will attack the enemies of the caster."

    That is the correct description for any pet with a demon form.
    Not realy.

    Summon Cacodemon
    NaCost: 535NCU cost: 58
    Duration: 00:00:10
    Range: 5m
    Speed:
    Attack 6.00s
    Recharge 3.10s
    Attack skills: Matter Crea 50% Time&Space 50%
    Requirements:
    Use:

    Time&Space from 874
    Matter Crea from 874
    Meta-Physicist
    Must have no other regular pet.

    Description:
    The nanocloud briefly takes on a semi-physical manifestation of the caster's anger.

    But, as I stated before, "brief" is a relative term.
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  18. #158
    Well, check out the three demons before. Again, copy and paste-mistake, this is also an incorrect description. Why should Caco be any different from Lemur/Demon/Fiend?

    But I guess you jsut wanted to feed the troll?
    Well, he does make a fool of himself, and keeps bumping this thread at the same
    Last edited by Camar; May 25th, 2007 at 09:32:33.

  19. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by Camar View Post
    I don't know why you are still using this "argument".
    Because he is a forumtroll who is to much chicken to post under his ingame name and has no other arguments

    Bump for 2h MP Pets
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  20. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by stormranger View Post
    Because he is a forumtroll who is to much chicken to post under his ingame name and has no other arguments

    Bump for 2h MP Pets
    Cant post my ingame name cuz MPs will not buff me then "aite?"
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